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- From: heath@techknow.com (Roger Lee Heath)
- Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,comp.client-server,comp.dcom.modems,comp.dcom.servers,comp.groupware
- Subject: Re: Buyer Beware
- Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 14:10:27 GMT
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- References: <4jafbg$9ut$5@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <BILLW.96Mar28004654@puli.cisco.com> <4jdmej$1oe@nntp1.best.com>
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- Followup: to <4jdmej$1oe@nntp1.best.com>
- author: by Rigor@clever.net (Matt Fox)
- composed: 28 Mar 1996 09:34:11 GMT it was stated:
-
- >In article <BILLW.96Mar28004654@puli.cisco.com>, billw@puli.cisco.com says...
- >>
- >>
- >> BUYER BEWARE
- >> [lots of dirt deleted]
- >>
- >>So what are you? Disgruntled ex-employee now working for "Mustang" ?
- >>
- >
- >all mustang did was steal colossus source code and buy the company
- >6 years later and cover there tracks
- >
-
- I have to respond to this, having been a sysop for over 15 years and
- watching all this, Calling the first of almost every bbs software that's
- ever been...
-
- The man to thank for all of these, including the beginning of Wildcat
- and PowerBBS is Steven Fox of Albuquerque. He released both an 8bit and
- 16bit code in Pascal into the public domain known as ROS (Remote
- Operating System) in the early 1980's. He still runs Albuquerque ROS
- which has been rated one of the best bbs systems in the nation several
- times.
-
- I watched the very beginnings of Wildcat and Mustang and noticed that
- nothing had changed much in their original compiles of ROS or another
- version of this put forth by Les Archumbault called PICS (Pascal
- Integrated Communication System), also released into the public domain..
- The first Wildcats up in California were friends of mine who were old
- Epson QX Valdocs users converting to new fancy 286 systems! The original
- Wildcats were some of the buggiest systems I've called.
-
- When we registered with PowerBBS, we got the code for it and compared it
- to the PICS Pascal code and found it was the same. Russell didn't even
- change the basic procedures names... He would apparently have you think
- this occurred though some miracle of ESP... <g>
-
- There is nothing wrong with starting with public domaine code at all. I
- compiled 8bit version myself for the Epson QX and it is still run in a
- few places. If you call them you'll think you are connected to an older
- Power or Wildcat system.... I even had it doing screens in Epson HASCI
- graphics characters on top of ANSI and ASCII... all in 1981....!
-
- But give credit where credit is due. Steven Fox made the first public
- domaine code which was the basis for many bbs software systems today.
- You can call him and thank him. He's listed in the Bob's USBBS list...
-
- Actually there was not really a major departure from these kind of
- systems until Excalibur showed up on the screen. They were laughed at
- when they proposed using Windows as a platform. Now they have inspired
- many new beautiful GUI systems and everyone is some kind of GUI
- expert... developing some new kind of GUI system.... No one's laughing
- any more. But again give credit where credit is due. Excalibur is the
- original pure Windows to the core bbs system, developed quite literally
- from the ground up. PowerBBS instead still operates it's basic shell
- with code that showed up in the early 1980's. It was never intended for
- this purpose.
-
- --
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